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SATURDAY SNOW (?) OUTLOOK

Updated Tues 08:24 PM—  Today’s models continue with the trend of the system moving faster past us (early Saturday) and mostly missing our area.  Any precip falling will be light and will be rain. The latest GFS and GEFS have it missing us entirely.

GEFS Forecast 5 AM Saturday. The path of the storm will follow the blue upper air contours.

From earlier Tuesday—

I took a fast look at the GFS before I went to bed last night and thought things had changed.  Too fast a look.  Things on the surface appeared to have changed to more snow, but not really.

This morning, I had a chance to look at the GFS, GEFS, Canadian, German ICON (yes, a new model for me) and ECMWF.    Here are the trends:

The GFS has taken a more westward track but is faster and warmer aloft.  So the new GFS gives us some rain here Saturday morning, but no snow.

GFS simulated Radar Saturday 9:30 AM  The blue line (critical temp for snow) is too far north.

The ECMWF, the Canadian and GEFS have different timing, with the Canadian having two separate centers, both  too far off-shore.  The other models’ placement is too far east.

ICON Ensemble Model forecast 1 PM Saturday- Surface Pressure percentiles

The ICON ensemble shows low pressure systems possible in various timing and locations, based on 10, 50 or 90 percentiles of possibilities.  All far to our east.

So the models show a storm that’s too far east, too under-developed or too warm or combinations of the above.  It doesn’t look like a snow storm for our area.

Getting back to my comment about storm tracks last night:  The “track” of a storm and its structure/speed/moisture/intensity/dynamics are inextricably connected.

To use the “track” analogy, when a storm is forecast to take a different track, it’s no longer same train on a different track.  It’s an entirely different train.

Using the expression “it depends on the track of the storm” dismisses the complexity and dynamics of weather systems.

 

WEEK WEATHER OUTLOOK

Updated Mon 11:10 PM— Tonight’s GFS has a significant snow for us. A large change from its previous runs. Details Tuesday morning.


Updated Mon 07:40 PM— The general trend continues with the Saturday storm side-swiping us to our east.  Here’s the statistical version of the GFS  (GEFS) showing the range of positions of the low pressure system late Saturday afternoon.  Notice that there’s a difference in position but all the tracks/positions are off-shore:

GEFS pressure statistics: 90, 50, and 10 percentiles sea level  pressure.

Monday afternoon’s operational GFS has light snow making it into Philadelphia, but has just a coating.  Temperatures above freezing. Still too far in the future to make a meaningful forecast.

GFS Precipitation forecast 5PM Saturday

I heard on the news/weather tonight that “whether we get some snow depends on the track of the storm”.  Isn’t that the purpose of a forecast?  I can’t make these things up.


Updated Mon 08:10 AM— Last night’s models have not clarified the forecast for next weekend. The trend has been for the storm to be further off the coast, but the track and development is still considered to have above average uncertainty.


…from Sunday—

This afternoon’s clouds were expected and forecast, as an upper air disturbance rotates over us from the upper low pressure system associated with the rain that passed through yesterday.

As mentioned in last Thursday’s post, some of the extended range models are suggesting the development of a coastal low this coming weekend.  (The extended range forecasters at the NWS have described the coming weekend’s weather as having higher than usual uncertainty. )

That said, this morning’s GFS, GEFS, CMC and ECMWF models are showing some sort of coastal low for us in an unclear time frame ranging from Saturday afternoon into Sunday.  The Canadian model shows the most developed snow storm for us and isn’t necessarily correct:

CMC forecast 1 AM Sunday morning

The GFS shows a low with less development and faster moving:

GFS Saturday 5 PM

The latest GFS Ensemble forecast (GEFS) (statistical) shows a low that is least developed and slowest:

GEFS forecast Sunday 7 AM

I wouldn’t go out and replace your snow shovel just yet, but it’s something to keep an eye on.

Amazingly, this is the first time this entire winter season where anything resembling a coastal snow storm presented even as a possibility.

Last year, we had multiple ‘potential’ snow storms that all ‘evaporated’ as we got closer to the time of the actual event. This may be no different, especially with little model agreement.  Stay tuned.